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Top 10 Arguments That Can’t Be Won

19 comments, 315 views, posted 11:06 pm 07/02/2012 in Useful by Quaektem
Quaektem has 10626 posts, 1188 threads, 739 points, location: A place between worlds
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Top 10 Arguments That Can’t Be Won

Since the time of fire, man has had arguments – rare or well done? Of course, arguments depend on your point of view, or in the case of husbands and wives, what the wife thinks. Some arguments are never-ending. Over the centuries, there have been some doozies that have kept philosophy students and teachers debating.

To be included on this list of Arguments That Can’t Be Won, the argument must have no clear answer that cannot be countered with another opposing view.


Evolution or Creation?

Theologists and scientists have been arguing this one for centuries as well. The argument goes back to the time when organized religion was almost as powerful as the monarchies ruling countries. When people starting postulating that the Earth was not the center of the universe, it gave way to the rise in questioning the idea of a seven-day creation and God’s role in creating the Earth. Enter Darwin and his Theory of Evolution and the debate truly kicks off with an unholy fevered pitch. Add in that there are many stories of creation across many different religions and your brain can really start to hurt.


Nature vs. Nurture

Does how you are raised affect your views as an adult more than what your genetic codes dictate? If your family has always been carpenters, are you destined to be a carpenter because of your genes or because of your familial upbringing? When identical twins are separated at birth and grow up to have identical tastes is that an argument that it has more to do with nature than nurture? However, is it nature to love spicy food, when that’s all that your family and friends eat?


Gun control

It’s not guns that kill people, it’s the bullets. In America, citizens have a right to bear arms, which has proven to be dangerous for many other citizens and police over the centuries since the country’s birth. On the other hand, large portions of the gun-toting population are careful citizens who have never crossed the law. Why should one group’s rights to bear arms be stripped away because another group feels unsafe? Or why should they be allowed to bear those weapons of death among a land of peaceful citizens?


Euthanasia

Dr. Kevorkian helped many people commit suicide due to their health conditions and their desires. His motives were questioned because all life is supposedly precious, but his patients wanted to move on from their frail existence. What if those patients didn’t have a say and we had the opportunity to choose whether they live in agony or die in peace by not giving them medication or a procedure? What is the better option?


The Death Penalty

Centuries ago, the prevalent rule of thumb was an eye for an eye, or in some cases, a life for a life. So the question becomes have we advanced far enough in our social and political structures to ban the death penalty? Or when is the death penalty justifiable? Is the death penalty appropriate for an accidental homicide? How about for a mass murderer?


Abortion or Pro-life?

Does a woman have the right to control her body by ending a life inside her? When is a fetus truly alive? Is all life truly precious? What happens when a woman is raped and becomes pregnant – is that life still precious? There may never be answers to these questions; however, the government has helped us out many times by entering its own opinion whether the pro-lifers like it or not.


Free will or Destiny?

The free will or destiny argument stems back to the Christian doctrine that God is omniscient and has seen everything that will happen. So if God can see everything that happens, is it free will or destiny that makes you choose to continue reading? Some have argued that God knows you will read this but you still have a choice. However, if the path is already apparent to one being, then the path has already been decided for you. However, that directly contradicts our everyday actions where we constantly make decisions – is something, a destiny foreseen by God, guiding us or are we truly free of the strictures of destiny?


Morals – Relative or Universal?

Like the question of gun control, whether ethics being morally relative or universal comes down to whether the good of the one outweighs the good of the many. If it is fine to sleep with another man’s wife in one society but not in another, then the problem is that the morals are relative to the society or person. But why wouldn’t it be universal that it is wrong to sleep with another man’s wife or woman’s husband in any society? Why is it OK to speed, when it is breaking the law? Shouldn’t breaking any law be just as wrong? If you would never steal a person’s purse, why would you pirate a DVD?


The chicken or the egg?

Perhaps one of the most fun arguments on this list, the chicken or the egg debate has raged for centuries mainly because it asks the questions does the animal evolve and then reproduce or was it hatched? That debate can then be transferred to our own existence, which leads into the argument of Evolution or Creation.


Does God Exist?

Since the dawn of recorded time, there have been people trying to prove that there is a higher being or beings that have caused the worlds and its creation. Organized religion comes down to having faith that there is a higher being and a place to go after death. Most people, if not already deeply religious in their life, find religion and start believing as they near their twilight years because they want to believe there is somewhere to go and someone to be with. So the question is how do you prove that god, in which ever religion you believe, exists?

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Comments

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11:07 pm 07/02/2012

Quaektem

It's not that they can't be won... it's that the other side refuses to see the sense in my reasoning

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3:50 am 08/02/2012

evolution

Quote by Quaektem:
Evolution or Creation?

No.

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3:57 am 08/02/2012

Flee

Quote by Quaektem:
The chicken or the egg?


Egg. Based on evolution, chickens evolved from reptiles, who laid eggs, so the egg came first.

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4:37 am 08/02/2012

Milky

Correction, the debate on nature vs nurture has been resolved... for like 5 years now. Its both nature and nurture that make us who we are, not one or the other.

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8:48 am 08/02/2012

bradpitt

any argument on religion can be won...it just involves 100's of years of ocupation & tyranny.

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11:50 am 08/02/2012

Quaektem

Quote by Milky:
Correction, the debate on nature vs nurture has been resolved... for like 5 years now. Its both nature and nurture that make us who we are, not one or the other.


bleh, with an attitude like that you could take out the whole list!

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5:07 pm 08/02/2012

jLuv

half of these can be won by simply refusing to debate fairy tales with idiots

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7:26 pm 08/02/2012

Quaektem

...aaaaaaaaaand there we go.

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7:32 pm 08/02/2012

tricpe

Quote by Quaektem:
So the question becomes have we advanced far enough in our social and political structures to ban the death penalty?

Come to Europe...

Quote by Quaektem:
The chicken or the egg?

Insects, fish, amphoebias and reptiles all hatc from the egg, and yet the question is about chickens...

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7:37 pm 08/02/2012

Flee

Quote by Quaektem:
...aaaaaaaaaand there we go.


I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?

or

I'm rubber and you're glue...

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7:40 pm 08/02/2012

Flee

Quote by Quaektem:
Abortion or Pro-life?


The answer to this is so simple, I don't get why people bother....

1. Abortion should not be necessary as people should smarten the fuck up.
2. It appears they aren't getting any smarter(as they keep doing it), so let the stupids abort themselves. It will solve future problems.

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7:57 pm 08/02/2012

Quaektem

Oh boy. I like #1 but #2 is far too close to eugenics for me.

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8:02 pm 08/02/2012

Flee

Not at all. No one is forcing them, and by being "pro-choice" they will do it themselves. No one dictates that these people are stupid and need to go. They are so stupid that they want to do it.

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8:28 pm 08/02/2012

Quaektem

Oh, I know what you were saying but sitting by while "X" population eradicates themselves is not something I am comfortable with as a matter of public policy.

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11:45 pm 08/02/2012

backroom

Quote by Quaektem:
but sitting by while "X" population eradicates themselves is not something I am comfortable with as a matter of public policy


You have not been watching the Republican debates then.

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11:52 pm 08/02/2012

Viscera

Or Howard Dean some time ago

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12:01 am 09/02/2012

Quaektem

Quote by backroom:
You have not been watching the Republican debates then.


No... no I haven't.

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12:02 am 09/02/2012

backroom

You know the audience did not even hear the scream.
Many said they did not know about it until watching the news.
Dean is a turd... not defending him...
But the directional mike made it 100X worse than it was in person apparently.

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12:19 am 09/02/2012

Quaektem

Quote by backroom:
But the directional mike made it 100X worse than it was in person apparently.


Yup. Death by media, not the last casualty I'm sure.

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